Unterschiede zwischen den Revisionen 8 und 46 (über 38 Versionen hinweg)

Inhaltsverzeichnis

Prüfstandfete Siegburg
Schubtabelle 2
Schubtabelle 3
Schubdiagramme

Hier mal eine Zusammenfassung der Schub-über-Strom-Diagramme.

Messwerte sind wie immer ohne Gewähr! Differenzen von verschiedenen Messmethoden können zu Abweichungen führen!

Prüfstandfete Siegburg

Diese Messungen stammen alle von der Prüfstandfete am 8.11.08 in Siegburg.

Gemessen wurde alles auf einem Prüfstand, daher sind die Daten aus dieser Tabelle allesamt miteinander vergleichbar.

Siegburg 1

Eckdaten: Prüfspannung: $/!\$ 12V Propeller EPP1045 und $/!\$ Gewichte ohne Anschlusskabel.

	D2730	AHM 23-5	AHM 23-10	$/!\$
Windungen	16W0,425	20W0,4	18W0,45
Eigengewicht	24g	25g	44g
Strom (A)
0,5	XX
1	XXX
1,5
2
2,5
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Imax (A)

Siegburg 2

Eckdaten: Prüfspannung: $/!\$ 12V Propeller EPP0845 und $/!\$ Gewichte ohne Anschlusskabel.

	D2730	AHM 23-5	$/!\$
Windungen	16W0,425	20W0,4
Eigengewicht	24g	25g
Strom (A)
0,5
1
1,5
2
2,5
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Imax (A)

Siegburg 3

Eckdaten: Spezialvermessungen gemäß Tabelle. Gewichte ohne Anschlusskabel.

	Hacker 20-22L
Windungen	22
Eigengewicht	56
Propeller	1245
Spannung (V)	16
Strom (A)
0,5
1
1,5
2
2,5
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Imax (A)

Schubtabelle 2

	Roxxy 2815	Roxxy 2824/34	EK5 0002	EK5 0003	AXI 2212/34	CF2822 14W0,4mm	CF2822 14W0,5mm	AHM 2310/18W	D2730 15W0,425	D2730 15W0,425	D2730 16W0,4
Messung von		H&I	H&I	H&I		Haydar	Haydar	Haydar	Haydar	Jumpjet	Jumpjet
Prop:		1045	1045	1045	1045	1045	1045	1045	1045	1045	1045
Spannung(V)			11	11		12	12	12	12	12	12
Strom (A)	Schub (g)
0,5		70	65	90	65	65	75	75	60	60	70
1		120	120	150	120	125	150	145	115	115	120
1,5		175	175	215	170	170	200	190	165	160	165
2		215	220	260	215	210	240	230	200	190	200
2,5		250	260	305	255	250	280	270	240	225	235
3		290	300	335	290	280	325	310	270	250	260
4		350	370	415	350	340	400	370	330	300	310
5		400	420	475	410		465	420	375	335	350
6		450	470	530	455		520	470	410	375	385
7		465	520	580	505		555	50?	440	304	415
8		520					620		460	427	438
9										450	460
10										470

Schubtabelle 3

Die Werte der Tabelle sind teils errechnet und alle von einem Prüfstand (von fdietsch zur Verfügung gestellt)Angaben ohne Gewähr, ich finde sie teileweise unplausibel... Aber da alle Daten von einem Prüfstand kommen, sind zumindest die Vergleiche/Unterschiede interessant.

	Hacker 20-22 clone	Hacker 20-22 clone	TURNIGY Bell TR2410-9	TURNIGY Bell TR2410-9	EK5 0002
Prop:	APC12*3.8	1045	1045	APC12*3.8	1045
Spannung(V)	10	10	10	10	10
Strom (A)	Schub (g)
0,5	35	40	42	50	45
1	88	75	75	100	90
1,5	122	100	115	145	120
2	155	125	145	165	145
2,5	180	155	168	195	160
3	204	185	190	225	200
4	248	230	220	268	235
5	285	265	265	305	275
6	320	290	298	342	300
7	336	308	320	375	330
8	360	328		400	334

Schubdiagramme

EPP1045 an ESKY05 0002&0003:

AHM&CF2822: (CF2822 im rechten Diagramm auch mit O-Wicklung im Stern verschaltet)

D2730 (rechts im Vergleich zu CF2822):

$/!\$ ToDo: hier gibt es noch etwas zu tun

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-  ⇤ ← Revision 8 vom 29.08.2008 09:49 → 
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||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px">[:ROXXY2815:Roxxy 2815] ||<width="60px">[:ROXXY2824-34:Roxxy 2824/34] ||<width="60px">[:Esky-0002b:EK5 0002] ||<width="60px">EK5 0003 ||<width="60px">AXI 2212/34 ||<width="60px">CF2822 14W0,4mm ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="60px">Prop: ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||Strom (A) ||||||||||||||||||||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">Schub (g) ||
||0,5 || ||70 ||65 ||90 ||65 ||65 || || || || ||
||1 || ||120 ||120 ||150 ||120 ||125 || || || || ||
||1,5 || ||175 ||175 ||215 ||170 ||170 || || || || ||
||2 || ||215 ||220 ||260 ||215 ||210 || || || || ||
||2,5 || ||250 ||260 ||305 ||255 ||250 || || || || ||
||3 || ||290 ||300 ||335 ||290 ||280 || || || || ||
||4 || ||350 ||370 ||415 ||350 ||340 || || || || ||
||5 || ||400 ||420 ||475 ||410 || || || || || ||
||6 || ||450 ||470 ||530 ||455 || || || || || ||
||7 || ||465 ||520 ||580 ||505 || || || || || ||
||8 || ||520 || || || || || || || || ||
+= Prüfstandfete Siegburg =
Diese Messungen stammen alle von der Prüfstandfete am 8.11.08 in Siegburg.

Gemessen wurde alles auf einem Prüfstand, daher sind die Daten aus __dieser__ Tabelle allesamt miteinander vergleichbar.

== Siegburg 1 ==
Eckdaten: Prüfspannung: /!\ 12V Propeller EPP1045 und /!\ Gewichte ohne Anschlusskabel.
||<width="100px"> ||<width="60px">[[D2730]] ||<width="60px">[[http://www.ahm-brushless.de/k002u001s001.htm|AHM 23-5]] ||<width="60px">[[http://www.ahm-brushless.de/k002u002s001.htm|AHM 23-10]] ||<width="60px"> /!\ ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="100px">Windungen ||<width="60px">16W0,425 ||<width="60px">20W0,4 ||<width="60px">18W0,45 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="100px">Eigengewicht ||<width="60px">24g ||<width="60px">25g ||<width="60px">44g ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="100px">Strom (A) ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||0,5 ||XX || || || || || || || || || || || ||
||1 ||XXX || || || || || || || || || || || ||
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||Imax (A) || || || || || || || || || || || || ||


== Siegburg 2 ==
Eckdaten: Prüfspannung: /!\ 12V Propeller EPP0845 und /!\ Gewichte ohne Anschlusskabel.
||<width="100px"> ||<width="60px">[[D2730]] ||<width="60px">[[http://www.ahm-brushless.de/k002u001s001.htm|AHM 23-5]] ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> /!\ ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="100px">Windungen ||<width="60px">16W0,425 ||<width="60px">20W0,4 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="100px">Eigengewicht ||<width="60px">24g ||<width="60px">25g ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="100px">Strom (A) ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
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||Imax (A) || || || || || || || || || || || || ||


== Siegburg 3 ==
Eckdaten: Spezialvermessungen gemäß Tabelle. Gewichte ohne Anschlusskabel.
||<width="100px"> ||<width="60px">Hacker 20-22L ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="100px">Windungen ||<width="60px">22 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="100px">Eigengewicht ||<width="60px">56 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="100px">Propeller ||<width="60px">1245 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="100px">Spannung (V) ||<width="60px">16 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="100px">Strom (A) ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||0,5 || || || || || || || || || || || || ||
||1 || || || || || || || || || || || || ||
||1,5 || || || || || || || || || || || || ||
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= Schubtabelle 2 =
||<width="90px"> ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">[[ROXXY2815|Roxxy 2815]] ||<width="60px">[[ROXXY2824-34|Roxxy 2824/34]] ||<width="60px">[[Esky-0002b|EK5 0002]] ||<width="60px">EK5 0003 ||<width="60px">AXI 2212/34 ||<width="60px">[[CF2822]] 14W0,4mm ||<width="60px">[[CF2822]] 14W0,5mm ||<width="60px">AHM 2310/18W ||<width="60px">[[D2730]] 15W0,425 ||<width="60px">[[D2730]] 15W0,425 ||<width="60px">[[D2730]] 16W0,4 ||
||<width="90px">Messung von ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||<width="60px">H&I ||<width="60px">H&I ||<width="60px">H&I ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px">Haydar ||<width="60px">Haydar ||<width="60px">Haydar ||<width="60px">Haydar ||<width="60px">Jumpjet ||<width="60px">Jumpjet ||
||<width="60px">Prop: ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||
||<width="100px">Spannung(V) ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px">11 ||<width="60px">11 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px">12 ||<width="60px">12 ||<width="60px">12 ||<width="60px">12 ||<width="60px">12 ||<width="60px">12 ||
||Strom (A) ||||||||||||||||||||||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">Schub (g) ||
||0,5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||70 ||65 ||90 ||65 ||65 ||75 ||75 ||60 ||60 ||70 ||
||1 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||120 ||120 ||150 ||120 ||125 ||150 ||145 ||115 ||115 ||120 ||
||1,5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||175 ||175 ||215 ||170 ||170 ||200 ||190 ||165 ||160 ||165 ||
||2 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||215 ||220 ||260 ||215 ||210 ||240 ||230 ||200 ||190 ||200 ||
||2,5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||250 ||260 ||305 ||255 ||250 ||280 ||270 ||240 ||225 ||235 ||
||3 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||290 ||300 ||335 ||290 ||280 ||325 ||310 ||270 ||250 ||260 ||
||4 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||350 ||370 ||415 ||350 ||340 ||400 ||370 ||330 ||300 ||310 ||
||5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||400 ||420 ||475 ||410 || ||465 ||420 ||375 ||335 ||350 ||
||6 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||450 ||470 ||530 ||455 || ||520 ||470 ||410 ||375 ||385 ||
||7 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||465 ||520 ||580 ||505 || ||555 ||50? ||440 ||304 ||415 ||
||8 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||520 || || || || ||620 || ||460 ||427 ||438 ||
||9 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> || || || || || || || || ||450 ||460 ||
||10 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> || || || || || || || || ||470 || ||
= Schubtabelle 3 =
Die Werte der Tabelle sind teils errechnet und alle von einem Prüfstand (von fdietsch zur Verfügung gestellt)Angaben ohne Gewähr, ich finde sie teileweise unplausibel... Aber da alle Daten von einem Prüfstand kommen, sind zumindest die Vergleiche/Unterschiede interessant.
||<width="90px"> ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">Hacker 20-22 clone ||<width="60px">Hacker 20-22 clone ||<width="60px">TURNIGY Bell TR2410-9 ||<width="60px">TURNIGY Bell TR2410-9 ||<width="60px">[[Esky-0002b|EK5 0002]] ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="60px">Prop: ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">APC12*3.8 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">APC12*3.8 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||<width="100px">Spannung(V) ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">10 ||<width="60px">10 ||<width="60px">10 ||<width="60px">10 ||<width="60px">10 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||
||Strom (A) ||||||||||||||||||||||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">Schub (g) ||
||0,5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">35 ||40 ||42 ||50 ||45 || || || || || ||
||1 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">88 ||75 ||75 ||100 ||90 || || || || || ||
||1,5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">122 ||100 ||115 ||145 ||120 || || || || || ||
||2 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">155 ||125 ||145 ||165 ||145 || || || || || ||
||2,5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">180 ||155 ||168 ||195 ||160 || || || || || ||
||3 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">204 ||185 ||190 ||225 ||200 || || || || || ||
||4 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">248 ||230 ||220 ||268 ||235 || || || || || ||
||5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">285 ||265 ||265 ||305 ||275 || || || || || ||
||6 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">320 ||290 ||298 ||342 ||300 || || || || || ||
||7 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">336 ||308 ||320 ||375 ||330 || || || || || ||
||8 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">360 ||328 || ||400 ||334 || || || || || ||
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+[[http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/tech/EPP1045_an_EK5.gif.html|{{http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=19064}}]]
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+[[http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/uploads/CF2822_Wickelversuche_3.jpg.html|{{http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=18914}}]][[http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/tech/CF2822_Grafikerg__nzung.jpg.html|{{http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=20523}}]]

D2730 (rechts im Vergleich zu CF2822):

[[http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/uploads/D2730_Wickelversuche_1.jpg.html|{{http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=19497}}]] [[http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/uploads/vergleich.JPG.html|{{http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=21144}}]]
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