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| = Schubtabellen = == Motoren an EPP1045 == ||<tablewidth="700px"width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> || ||Strom (A)|||||||||||||||||||||| || ||0,5|| || || || || || || || || || || ||1|| || || || || || || || || || || ||1,5|| || || || || || || || || || || ||2|| || || || || || || || || || || ||2,5|| || || || || || || || || || || ||3|| || || || || || || || || || || ||4|| || || || || || || || || || || ||5|| || || || || || || || || || || ||6|| || || || || || || || || || || ||7|| || || || || || || || || || || ||8|| || || || || || || || || || || |
Hier mal eine Zusammenfassung der Schub-über-Strom-Diagramme. Messwerte sind wie immer ohne Gewähr! Differenzen von verschiedenen Messmethoden können zu Abweichungen führen! = Schubtabelle 1 = Diese Messungen stammen alle von der Prüfstandfete am 8.11.08 in Siegburg. Gemessen wurde alles auf einem Prüfstand, daher sind die Daten aus dieser Tabelle allesamt miteinander vergleichbar. Eckdaten: Prüfspannung: /!\ 12V Propeller EPP1045 und /!\ Gewichte ohne Anschlusskabel. ||<width="100px"> ||<width="60px">["D2730"] ||<width="60px">[http://www.ahm-brushless.de/k002u001s001.htm AHM23-5] ||<width="60px">[http://www.ahm-brushless.de/k002u002s001.htm AHM23-10] ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> || ||<width="100px">Windungen ||<width="60px">16W0,425 ||<width="60px">20W0,4 ||<width="60px">18W0,45 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> || ||<width="100px">Eigengewicht ||<width="60px">24g ||<width="60px">25g ||<width="60px">44g ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> || ||<width="100px">Strom (A) ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> || ||0,5 ||XX || || || || || || || || || || || || ||1 ||XXX || || || || || || || || || || || || ||1,5 || || || || || || || || || || || || || ||2 || || || || || || || || || || || || || ||2,5 || || || || || || || || || || || || || ||3 || || || || || || || || || || || || || ||4 || || || || || || || || || || || || || ||5 || || || || || || || || || || || || || ||6 || || || || || || || || || || || || || ||7 || || || || || || || || || || || || || ||8 || || || || || || || || || || || || || ||9 || || || || || || || || || || || || || ||10 || || || || || || || || || || || || || |
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| = Schubtabelle 2 = ||<width="90px"> ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">[:ROXXY2815:Roxxy 2815] ||<width="60px">[:ROXXY2824-34:Roxxy 2824/34] ||<width="60px">[:Esky-0002b:EK5 0002] ||<width="60px">EK5 0003 ||<width="60px">AXI 2212/34 ||<width="60px">["CF2822"] 14W0,4mm ||<width="60px">["CF2822"] 14W0,5mm ||<width="60px">AHM 2310/18W ||<width="60px">["D2730"] 15W0,425 ||<width="60px">["D2730"] 15W0,425 ||<width="60px">["D2730"] 16W0,4 || ||<width="90px">Messung von ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||<width="60px">H&I ||<width="60px">H&I ||<width="60px">H&I ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px">Haydar ||<width="60px">Haydar ||<width="60px">Haydar ||<width="60px">Haydar ||<width="60px">Jumpjet ||<width="60px">Jumpjet || ||<width="60px">Prop: ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 || ||<width="100px">Spannung(V) ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px">11 ||<width="60px">11 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px">12 ||<width="60px">12 ||<width="60px">12 ||<width="60px">12 ||<width="60px">12 ||<width="60px">12 || ||Strom (A) ||||||||||||||||||||||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">Schub (g) || ||0,5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||70 ||65 ||90 ||65 ||65 ||75 ||75 ||60 ||60 ||70 || ||1 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||120 ||120 ||150 ||120 ||125 ||150 ||145 ||115 ||115 ||120 || ||1,5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||175 ||175 ||215 ||170 ||170 ||200 ||190 ||165 ||160 ||165 || ||2 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||215 ||220 ||260 ||215 ||210 ||240 ||230 ||200 ||190 ||200 || ||2,5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||250 ||260 ||305 ||255 ||250 ||280 ||270 ||240 ||225 ||235 || ||3 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||290 ||300 ||335 ||290 ||280 ||325 ||310 ||270 ||250 ||260 || ||4 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||350 ||370 ||415 ||350 ||340 ||400 ||370 ||330 ||300 ||310 || ||5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||400 ||420 ||475 ||410 || ||465 ||420 ||375 ||335 ||350 || ||6 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||450 ||470 ||530 ||455 || ||520 ||470 ||410 ||375 ||385 || ||7 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||465 ||520 ||580 ||505 || ||555 ||50? ||440 ||304 ||415 || ||8 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> ||520 || || || || ||620 || ||460 ||427 ||438 || ||9 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> || || || || || || || || ||450 ||460 || ||10 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"> || || || || || || || || ||470 || || = Schubtabelle 3 = Die Werte der Tabelle sind teils errechnet und alle von einem Prüfstand (von fdietsch zur Verfügung gestellt)Angaben ohne Gewähr, ich finde sie teileweise unplausibel... Aber da alle Daten von einem Prüfstand kommen, sind zumindest die Vergleiche/Unterschiede interessant. ||<width="90px"> ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">Hacker 20-22 clone ||<width="60px">Hacker 20-22 clone ||<width="60px">TURNIGY Bell TR2410-9 ||<width="60px">TURNIGY Bell TR2410-9 ||<width="60px">[:Esky-0002b:EK5 0002] ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> || ||<width="60px">Prop: ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">APC12*3.8 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px">APC12*3.8 ||<width="60px">1045 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> || ||<width="100px">Spannung(V) ||||<width="60px" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">10 ||<width="60px">10 ||<width="60px">10 ||<width="60px">10 ||<width="60px">10 ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> ||<width="60px"> || ||Strom (A) ||||||||||||||||||||||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">Schub (g) || ||0,5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">35 ||40 ||42 ||50 ||45 || || || || || || ||1 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">88 ||75 ||75 ||100 ||90 || || || || || || ||1,5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">122 ||100 ||115 ||145 ||120 || || || || || || ||2 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">155 ||125 ||145 ||165 ||145 || || || || || || ||2,5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">180 ||155 ||168 ||195 ||160 || || || || || || ||3 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">204 ||185 ||190 ||225 ||200 || || || || || || ||4 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">248 ||230 ||220 ||268 ||235 || || || || || || ||5 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">285 ||265 ||265 ||305 ||275 || || || || || || ||6 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">320 ||290 ||298 ||342 ||300 || || || || || || ||7 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">336 ||308 ||320 ||375 ||330 || || || || || || ||8 ||||<style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">360 ||328 || ||400 ||334 || || || || || || |
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| == Motoren an EPP0845 == == Motoren an EPP1245 == |
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| EPP1045 an ESKY05 0002&0003: [[ImageLink(http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=19064,http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/tech/EPP1045_an_EK5.gif.html)]] AHM&CF2822: (CF2822 im rechten Diagramm auch mit O-Wicklung im Stern verschaltet) [[ImageLink(http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=18914,http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/uploads/CF2822_Wickelversuche_3.jpg.html)]][[ImageLink(http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=20523,http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/tech/CF2822_Grafikerg__nzung.jpg.html)]] D2730 (rechts im Vergleich zu CF2822): [[ImageLink(http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=19497,http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/uploads/D2730_Wickelversuche_1.jpg.html)]] [[ImageLink(http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=21144,http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/uploads/vergleich.JPG.html)]] |
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Hier mal eine Zusammenfassung der Schub-über-Strom-Diagramme.
Messwerte sind wie immer ohne Gewähr! Differenzen von verschiedenen Messmethoden können zu Abweichungen führen!
Schubtabelle 1
Diese Messungen stammen alle von der Prüfstandfete am 8.11.08 in Siegburg.
Gemessen wurde alles auf einem Prüfstand, daher sind die Daten aus dieser Tabelle allesamt miteinander vergleichbar.
Eckdaten: Prüfspannung: ![/!\](/moin_static199/mk-style3/img/alert.png "/!\"){kind=small}
12V Propeller EPP1045 und Gewichte ohne Anschlusskabel.
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Schubtabelle 2
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[:ROXXY2815:Roxxy 2815] |
[:ROXXY2824-34:Roxxy 2824/34] |
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AXI 2212/34 |
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AHM 2310/18W |
["D2730"] 15W0,425 |
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Schubtabelle 3
Die Werte der Tabelle sind teils errechnet und alle von einem Prüfstand (von fdietsch zur Verfügung gestellt)Angaben ohne Gewähr, ich finde sie teileweise unplausibel... Aber da alle Daten von einem Prüfstand kommen, sind zumindest die Vergleiche/Unterschiede interessant.
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Hacker 20-22 clone |
Hacker 20-22 clone |
TURNIGY Bell TR2410-9 |
TURNIGY Bell TR2410-9 |
[:Esky-0002b:EK5 0002] |
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Schubdiagramme
EPP1045 an ESKY05 0002&0003:
AHM&CF2822: (CF2822 im rechten Diagramm auch mit O-Wicklung im Stern verschaltet)
ImageLink(http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=18914,http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/uploads/CF2822_Wickelversuche_3.jpg.html)ImageLink(http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=20523,http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/tech/CF2822_Grafikerg__nzung.jpg.html)
D2730 (rechts im Vergleich zu CF2822):
ImageLink(http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=19497,http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/uploads/D2730_Wickelversuche_1.jpg.html) ImageLink(http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=21144,http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/uploads/vergleich.JPG.html)
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