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see also: * FlugZeit * [[en/FlightTime|FlightTime]] |
## page was renamed from MotorCourves see also: FlugZeit [[en/FlightTime|FlightTime]] <<TableOfContents>> = Test setup = [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U8_28_135kV_6S.jpg?m=1413802451 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/U8_28_135kV_6S.jpg?m=1413802451 }} ]] |
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= MK3644 = <<TableOfContents>> = Thrust courves of different motors = * How to read the courves is described here: [[en/FlightTime#how_to_read_the_curves|How]] * please note that the unit of the current s in 10mA - that means: 100 is 1A and 1000 is 10A |
== Notice == Here is a list of motors that are basically working with BL-Ctl V3. There is no warranty that, the BL-Ctl V3 is working with these motors/propellers under all conditions. We have only done extensive tests with the motors available in our shop. If you use other motors or propeller sizes, you do this on your own risk - no warranty. == BL-Settings == If not other noticed, these curves were recorded with: * 24° Timing * 20kHz = How to read the curves = With this curves it is easy to estimate the needed current and even estimate the flight-time. * please note that the unit of the currents are in the most graohs in 10mA - that means: 100 is 1A and 1000 is 10A |
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You can get the needed current for each needed thrust == Example == The total weight of a MikroKopter (4 Rotors) is 1400g -> so each motor needs a thrust of 350g for hovering (1400g / 4 = 350g) [[http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/tech/MK3538_characteristic_curve_0-8A_howto.GIF.html|{{http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=67421}}]] Current needed for 350g with the 13x6,5 APC - Propeller? -> 1,8A Current needed for 350g with the 12x8 APC - Propeller? -> 2,4A The total current for all four motors would be 7,2A (4 * 1,8A) or 9,6A (4 * 2,4A) == Flight time == You can estimate the flight time with this formular: '''Time = 54 * Lipo / Current''' (54 because we estimate 10% losses -> 60 * 0,9) In case we would have a 3300 Lipo (3,3Ah), the Flight time for the 13x6,5 would be: Time = 54 * 3,3 / 7,2 = 24,7 min The same for the 12x8 Prop: Time = 54 * 3,3 / 9,6 = 18,5 min That is a different of 33% in flight time! See also: FlugZeit ##include_3644begin |
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[[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_12_TvsI_V1_10.gif?m=1412677139 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3644_6S_12_TvsI_V1_10.gif?m=1412677139 }} ]] | [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_12_TvsI_V1_10-01.gif?m=1424422678 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3644_6S_12_TvsI_V1_10-01.gif?m=1424422679 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_12Zoll_V1_10_TvsS-01.gif?m=1424422693 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3644_6S_12Zoll_V1_10_TvsS-01.gif?m=1424422694 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_12Zoll_V1_10_EvsT-01.gif?m=1424422686 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3644_6S_12Zoll_V1_10_EvsT-01.gif?m=1424422687 }} ]] |
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== MK3644/24 16" Prop 25V == [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_16_TvsI_V1_10.gif?m=1436345029 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3644_6S_16_TvsI_V1_10.gif?m=1436345030 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/mk3644_6S_16_TvsS_V1_10.gif?m=1436345254 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/mk3644_6S_16_TvsS_V1_10.gif?m=1436345255 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_14_16_Compare.gif?m=1436345023 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3644_14_16_Compare.gif?m=1436345023 }} ]] * This [[https://www.mikrocontroller.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=814|Motor]] * This [[https://www.mikrocontroller.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=75&products_id=839|Prop]] |
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##include_3644end = MK3640 = == MK3640/34 12" Prop 25V == [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1238CFK_6S_TvsI.gif?m=1435758890 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK364034_1238CFK_6S_TvsI.gif?m=1435758889 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1238CFK_6S_TvsS_csv.gif?m=1435758962 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK364034_1238CFK_6S_TvsS_csv.gif?m=1435758962 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1238CFK_6S_EvsT.gif?m=1435758914 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK364034_1238CFK_6S_EvsT.gif?m=1435758913 }} ]] == MK3640/34 13" Prop 25V == [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1342CFK_6S_TvsS.gif?m=1435758905 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK364034_1342CFK_6S_TvsS.gif?m=1435758905 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1342CFK_6S_TvsI.gif?m=1435758900 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK364034_1342CFK_6S_TvsI.gif?m=1435758900 }} ]] * This [[https://www.mikrocontroller.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=75&products_id=749|Prop]] == MK3640/34 14" Prop 25V == [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1445CFK_6S_TvsS.gif?m=1435758896 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK364034_1445CFK_6S_TvsS.gif?m=1435758896 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1445CFK_6S_TvsI.gif?m=1435759497 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK364034_1445CFK_6S_TvsI.gif?m=1435759496 }} ]] * This [[https://www.mikrocontroller.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=75&products_id=713|Prop]] ##include_3638_begin = MK3638 4S = [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3538_characteristic_curve.gif?m=1409673363 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3538_characteristic_curve.gif?m=1410812398 }} ]] == MK3638 4S 12" Carbon == [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3638_4S_12Zoll_TvsI.gif?m=1418913043 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3638_4S_12Zoll_TvsI.gif?m=1418913044 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3638_4S_12Zoll_TvsS.gif?m=1418913053 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3638_4S_12Zoll_TvsS.gif?m=1418913054 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3638_4S_12Zoll_Efficiency.gif?m=1418913060 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3638_4S_12Zoll_Efficiency.gif?m=1418913060 }} ]] * This [[https://www.mikrocontroller.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=75&products_id=836|Prop]] * This [[https://www.mikrocontroller.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=615|Motor]] == MK3638 4S 14" Carbon == [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3638_4S_14x45_TvsS.gif?m=1436461393 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3638_4S_14x45_TvsS.gif?m=1436461394 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3638_4S_14x45_TvsI.gif?m=1436461385 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3638_4S_14x45_TvsI.gif?m=1436461385 }} ]] == MK3638 4S 15" Carbon == [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3638_4S_14x45_TvsS.gif?m=1436461393 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3638_4S_14x45_TvsS.gif?m=1436461394 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3638_4S_14x45_TvsI.gif?m=1436461385 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3638_4S_14x45_TvsI.gif?m=1436461385 }} ]] ##include_3638_end ------ /!\ '''Motors/propellers that are basically working, see notice at top''' |
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= KDE4012XF/400 = Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10) |
= KDE4014XF/380 = Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10) |
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== KDE4012XF/400 16" 6S == | == KDE4014XF/380 16" 6S == |
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== KDE4012XF/400 17" vs. 18" 6S == | == KDE4014XF/380 17" vs. 18" 6S == |
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== KDE4012XF/400 18" 6S == | == KDE4014XF/380 18" 6S == |
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== T-Motor U5/400 16" == | == T-Motor U5/400 18" == |
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Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10) == T-Motor U7/490 18" == |
Successfuly tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10) The U7/490 runs perfectly on the BL V3, but we would recommend to select a lower rpm/V and run them on 6S. == T-Motor U7/490 13" 6S == [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_16x55_TvsS.gif?m=1413883146 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/U7_490kV_4S_16x55_TvsS.gif?m=1413883146 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_6S_13_TvsS.gif?m=1413883153 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/U7_490kV_6S_13_TvsS.gif?m=1413883154 }} ]] == T-Motor U7/490 15x5,5" 4S == [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_15x55_TvsI.gif?m=1413882881 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/U7_490kV_4S_15x55_TvsI.gif?m=1413882881 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_15x55_TvsS.gif?m=1413882885 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/U7_490kV_4S_15x55_TvsS.gif?m=1413882885 }} ]] == T-Motor U7/490 16x5,5" 4S == [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_16x55_TvsI.gif?m=1413882890 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/U7_490kV_4S_16x55_TvsI.gif?m=1413882891 }} ]] == T-Motor U7/490 17x5,8" 4S == [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_17x58_TcsI.gif?m=1413883265 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/U7_490kV_4S_17x58_TcsI.gif?m=1413883266 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_18_%2842ALimit%29_TvsS_csv.gif?m=1413883557 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/U7_490kV_4S_18_%2842ALimit%29_TvsS_csv.gif?m=1413883557 }} ]] == T-Motor U7/490 18" 4S == /!\ Note: the 490rpm/V in combination with 18" Prop results in overcurrent (higher that 45A) '''BL-Firmware 1.06''' |
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= Dualsky XM7010MR-7.5 = == 20" Wood propeller == [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MX7010MR75_20x6_6S_TvyI.gif?m=1436342384 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MX7010MR75_20x6_6S_TvyI.gif?m=1436342385 }} ]] [[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MX7010MR75_20x6_6S.gif?m=1436342389 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MX7010MR75_20x6_6S.gif?m=1436342389 }} ]] -> this motor runs also fine with 18" prop |
see also: FlugZeit FlightTime
Inhaltsverzeichnis
Test setup
Notice
Here is a list of motors that are basically working with BL-Ctl V3. There is no warranty that, the BL-Ctl V3 is working with these motors/propellers under all conditions. We have only done extensive tests with the motors available in our shop. If you use other motors or propeller sizes, you do this on your own risk - no warranty.
BL-Settings
If not other noticed, these curves were recorded with:
- 24° Timing
- 20kHz
How to read the curves
With this curves it is easy to estimate the needed current and even estimate the flight-time.
- please note that the unit of the currents are in the most graohs in 10mA - that means: 100 is 1A and 1000 is 10A
If there are courves Thrust vs. Setpoint -> 2550 = 100% -> 1270 = 50%
You can get the needed current for each needed thrust
Example
The total weight of a MikroKopter (4 Rotors) is 1400g -> so each motor needs a thrust of 350g for hovering (1400g / 4 = 350g)
Current needed for 350g with the 13x6,5 APC - Propeller? -> 1,8A
Current needed for 350g with the 12x8 APC - Propeller? -> 2,4A
The total current for all four motors would be 7,2A (4 * 1,8A) or 9,6A (4 * 2,4A)
Flight time
You can estimate the flight time with this formular:
Time = 54 * Lipo / Current
(54 because we estimate 10% losses -> 60 * 0,9)
In case we would have a 3300 Lipo (3,3Ah), the Flight time for the 13x6,5 would be:
Time = 54 * 3,3 / 7,2 = 24,7 min
The same for the 12x8 Prop:
Time = 54 * 3,3 / 9,6 = 18,5 min
That is a different of 33% in flight time!
See also: FlugZeit
MK3644/24
Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)
MK3644/24 12" Prop 25V
MK3644/24 13" Prop 25V
MK3644/24 14" Prop 25V
MK3644/24 15" Prop 25V
MK3644/24 16" Prop 25V
MK3644/24 Propeller comparison
(full range and 0-10A range)
MK3644/24 Thrust vs Setpoint
MK3640
MK3640/34 12" Prop 25V
MK3640/34 13" Prop 25V
This Prop
MK3640/34 14" Prop 25V
This Prop
MK3638 4S
MK3638 4S 12" Carbon
MK3638 4S 14" Carbon
MK3638 4S 15" Carbon
Motors/propellers that are basically working, see notice at top
Altigator A5050
Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)
Altigator A5050 16x5 XOAR 4S
Altigator A5050 16x6 XOAR 4S
KDE3520XF/400kV
Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)
KDE3520XF/400kV 14x8" Eprop 6S
KDE3520XF/400kV 15x5" 6S
KDE3520XF/400kV 16x5,5" 6S
KDE4012XF/400
Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)
KDE4012XF_400 16" 6S
KDE4012XF_400 17" 6S
KDE4012XF_400 18" 6S
KDE4014XF/380
Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)
Compare to MK3644
KDE4014XF/380 16" 6S
KDE4014XF/380 17" vs. 18" 6S
KDE4014XF/380 18" 6S
T-Motor U5/400
Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)
T-Motor U5/400 16"
T-Motor U5/400 18"
Note: In combination of 18" and 6S Lipo, the motor starts to generate commutation problems at higher currents. We recommend to operate this motor max. with 17" or better with 16" Propellers
T-Motor U7/490
Successfuly tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)
The U7/490 runs perfectly on the BL V3, but we would recommend to select a lower rpm/V and run them on 6S.
T-Motor U7/490 13" 6S
T-Motor U7/490 15x5,5" 4S
T-Motor U7/490 16x5,5" 4S
T-Motor U7/490 17x5,8" 4S
T-Motor U7/490 18" 4S
Note: the 490rpm/V in combination with 18" Prop results in overcurrent (higher that 45A)
BL-Firmware 1.06
BL-Firmware 1.10:
T-Motor U8/135
Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10))
T-Motor U8/135 28" 6S
Dualsky XM7010MR-7.5
20" Wood propeller
-> this motor runs also fine with 18" prop