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== MK3644/24 16" Prop 25V ==
[[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_16_TvsI_V1_10.gif?m=1436345029 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3644_6S_16_TvsI_V1_10.gif?m=1436345030 }} ]]

[[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/mk3644_6S_16_TvsS_V1_10.gif?m=1436345254 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/mk3644_6S_16_TvsS_V1_10.gif?m=1436345255 }} ]]

[[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_14_16_Compare.gif?m=1436345023 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MK3644_14_16_Compare.gif?m=1436345023 }} ]]

 * This [[https://www.mikrocontroller.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=814|Motor]]

 * This [[https://www.mikrocontroller.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=75&products_id=839|Prop]]
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= Dualsky XM7010MR-7.5 =

== 20" Wood propeller ==

[[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MX7010MR75_20x6_6S_TvyI.gif?m=1436342384 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MX7010MR75_20x6_6S_TvyI.gif?m=1436342385 }} ]]

[[ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MX7010MR75_20x6_6S.gif?m=1436342389 | {{ http://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/thumbs/tech/MX7010MR75_20x6_6S.gif?m=1436342389 }} ]]

-> this motor runs also fine with 18" prop

see also: FlugZeit FlightTime

Inhaltsverzeichnis

  1. Test setup
    1. Notice
    2. BL-Settings
  2. How to read the curves
    1. Example
    2. Flight time
  3. MK3644/24
    1. MK3644/24 12" Prop 25V
    2. MK3644/24 13" Prop 25V
    3. MK3644/24 14" Prop 25V
    4. MK3644/24 15" Prop 25V
    5. MK3644/24 16" Prop 25V
    6. MK3644/24 Propeller comparison
    7. MK3644/24 Thrust vs Setpoint
  4. MK3640
    1. MK3640/34 12" Prop 25V
    2. MK3640/34 13" Prop 25V
    3. MK3640/34 14" Prop 25V
  5. MK3638 4S
    1. MK3638 4S 12" Carbon
  6. Altigator A5050
    1. Altigator A5050 16x5 XOAR 4S
    2. Altigator A5050 16x6 XOAR 4S
  7. KDE3520XF/400kV
    1. KDE3520XF/400kV 14x8" Eprop 6S
    2. KDE3520XF/400kV 15x5" 6S
    3. KDE3520XF/400kV 16x5,5" 6S
  8. KDE4012XF/400
    1. KDE4012XF_400 16" 6S
    2. KDE4012XF_400 17" 6S
    3. KDE4012XF_400 18" 6S
  9. KDE4014XF/380
    1. Compare to MK3644
    2. KDE4014XF/380 16" 6S
    3. KDE4014XF/380 17" vs. 18" 6S
    4. KDE4014XF/380 18" 6S
  10. T-Motor U5/400
    1. T-Motor U5/400 16"
    2. T-Motor U5/400 18"
  11. T-Motor U7/490
    1. T-Motor U7/490 13" 6S
    2. T-Motor U7/490 15x5,5" 4S
    3. T-Motor U7/490 16x5,5" 4S
    4. T-Motor U7/490 17x5,8" 4S
    5. T-Motor U7/490 18" 4S
  12. T-Motor U8/135
    1. T-Motor U8/135 28" 6S
  13. Dualsky XM7010MR-7.5
    1. 20" Wood propeller

Test setup

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U8_28_135kV_6S.jpg?m=1413802451

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE4014XF-380_18_6S_Ozkan.gif?m=1413802069

Notice

Here is a list of motors that are basically working with BL-Ctl V3. There is no warranty that, the BL-Ctl V3 is working with these motors/propellers under all conditions. We have only done extensive tests with the motors available in our shop. If you use other motors or propeller sizes, you do this on your own risk - no warranty.

BL-Settings

If not other noticed, these curves were recorded with:

  • 24° Timing
  • 20kHz

How to read the curves

With this curves it is easy to estimate the needed current and even estimate the flight-time.

  • please note that the unit of the currents are in the most graohs in 10mA - that means: 100 is 1A and 1000 is 10A

  • If there are courves Thrust vs. Setpoint -> 2550 = 100% -> 1270 = 50%

You can get the needed current for each needed thrust

Example

The total weight of a MikroKopter (4 Rotors) is 1400g -> so each motor needs a thrust of 350g for hovering (1400g / 4 = 350g)

http://gallery.mikrokopter.de/main.php/v/tech/MK3538_characteristic_curve_0-8A_howto.GIF.html

Current needed for 350g with the 13x6,5 APC - Propeller? -> 1,8A

Current needed for 350g with the 12x8 APC - Propeller? -> 2,4A

The total current for all four motors would be 7,2A (4 * 1,8A) or 9,6A (4 * 2,4A)

Flight time

You can estimate the flight time with this formular:

Time = 54 * Lipo / Current

(54 because we estimate 10% losses -> 60 * 0,9)

In case we would have a 3300 Lipo (3,3Ah), the Flight time for the 13x6,5 would be:

Time = 54 * 3,3 / 7,2 = 24,7 min

The same for the 12x8 Prop:

Time = 54 * 3,3 / 9,6 = 18,5 min

That is a different of 33% in flight time!

See also: FlugZeit

MK3644/24

Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)

MK3644/24 12" Prop 25V

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_12_TvsI_V1_10-01.gif?m=1424422678

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_12Zoll_V1_10_TvsS-01.gif?m=1424422693

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_12Zoll_V1_10_EvsT-01.gif?m=1424422686

MK3644/24 13" Prop 25V

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_13_TvsI_V1_10.gif?m=1412677181

MK3644/24 14" Prop 25V

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_14_TvsI_V1_10.gif?m=1412677155

MK3644/24 15" Prop 25V

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_15x5_TvsI_V1_10.gif?m=1412677170

MK3644/24 16" Prop 25V

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_16_TvsI_V1_10.gif?m=1436345029

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/mk3644_6S_16_TvsS_V1_10.gif?m=1436345254

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_14_16_Compare.gif?m=1436345023

MK3644/24 Propeller comparison

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_TvsI_Compare_12-15.gif?m=1412677197https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_12_TvsI_PropCompare_0-10A.gif?m=1412677207

(full range and 0-10A range)

MK3644/24 Thrust vs Setpoint

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3644_6S_12_TvsS_PropCompare.gif?m=1412678531

MK3640

MK3640/34 12" Prop 25V

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1238CFK_6S_TvsI.gif?m=1435758890

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1238CFK_6S_TvsS_csv.gif?m=1435758962

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1238CFK_6S_EvsT.gif?m=1435758914

MK3640/34 13" Prop 25V

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1342CFK_6S_TvsS.gif?m=1435758905

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1342CFK_6S_TvsI.gif?m=1435758900

MK3640/34 14" Prop 25V

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1445CFK_6S_TvsS.gif?m=1435758896

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK364034_1445CFK_6S_TvsI.gif?m=1435759497

MK3638 4S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3538_characteristic_curve.gif?m=1409673363

MK3638 4S 12" Carbon

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3638_4S_12Zoll_TvsI.gif?m=1418913043

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3638_4S_12Zoll_TvsS.gif?m=1418913053

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MK3638_4S_12Zoll_Efficiency.gif?m=1418913060

/!\ Motors/propellers that are basically working, see notice at top

Altigator A5050

Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)

Altigator A5050 16x5 XOAR 4S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/Altigator_A5050_4S_16x5_TvsI.gif?m=1413802701

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/Altigator_A5050_4S_16x5_TvsS.gif?m=1413802706

Altigator A5050 16x6 XOAR 4S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/Altigator_A5050_4S_16x6_TvsI.gif?m=1413802709

KDE3520XF/400kV

Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/resizes/tech/KDE3520XF_400kV_Eprop-01.jpg?m=1413884213

KDE3520XF/400kV 14x8" Eprop 6S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE3520XF_400kV_14x8Eprop_6S_TvsI-01.gif?m=1413800269

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE3520XF_400kV_14x8Eprop_6S_TvsS-01.gif?m=1413800277

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE3520XF_400kV_14x8Eprop_6S_Effectivity-01.gif?m=1413800274

KDE3520XF/400kV 15x5" 6S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE3520XF_400kV_15x5_6S_TvsI.gif?m=1413800660

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE3520XF_400kV_15x5_6S_TvsS.gif?m=1413800664

KDE3520XF/400kV 16x5,5" 6S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE3520XF_400kV_16x5_6S_TvsI.gif?m=1413800669

KDE4012XF/400

Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)

KDE4012XF_400 16" 6S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE4012XF_400_16_6S_Graf_TvsI_csv.gif?m=1413800898

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE4012XF_400_16_6S_Graf_TvsS_csv.gif?m=1413800902

KDE4012XF_400 17" 6S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE4012XF_400_17_6S_Graf_TvsI.gif?m=1413801158

KDE4012XF_400 18" 6S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE4012XF_400_18_6S_Graf_TvsI.gif?m=1413801161

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE4012XF_400_18_6S_Graf_TvsS.gif?m=1413801167

KDE4014XF/380

Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/resizes/tech/KDE4014XF-380_18_6S_1.JPG?m=1413801490

Compare to MK3644

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE4014_vs_MK3644.gif?m=1413801391

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE4014XF-380_16_6S_graph_TvsI.gif?m=1413801396

KDE4014XF/380 16" 6S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE4014XF-380_16_6S_graph_TvsI.gif?m=1413801396

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE4014XF-380_16_6S_graph_TvsS.gif?m=1413801399

KDE4014XF/380 17" vs. 18" 6S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE4014XF-380_17And18_6S_graph_TvsI_Compare.gif?m=1413801486

KDE4014XF/380 18" 6S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE4014XF-380_18_6S_graph.gif?m=1413801494

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/KDE4014XF-380_18_6S_graph2.gif?m=1413801981

T-Motor U5/400

Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)

T-Motor U5/400 16"

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U5_16x55_6S-01.gif?m=1413802197

T-Motor U5/400 18"

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U5_400_18_Critical2-01.gif?m=1413802206

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U5_400_18_Critical-01.gif?m=1413802201

Note: In combination of 18" and 6S Lipo, the motor starts to generate commutation problems at higher currents. We recommend to operate this motor max. with 17" or better with 16" Propellers

T-Motor U7/490

Successfuly tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10)

The U7/490 runs perfectly on the BL V3, but we would recommend to select a lower rpm/V and run them on 6S.

T-Motor U7/490 13" 6S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_16x55_TvsS.gif?m=1413883146

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_6S_13_TvsS.gif?m=1413883153

T-Motor U7/490 15x5,5" 4S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_15x55_TvsI.gif?m=1413882881

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_15x55_TvsS.gif?m=1413882885

T-Motor U7/490 16x5,5" 4S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_16x55_TvsI.gif?m=1413882890

T-Motor U7/490 17x5,8" 4S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_17x58_TcsI.gif?m=1413883265

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_18_%2842ALimit%29_TvsS_csv.gif?m=1413883557

T-Motor U7/490 18" 4S

/!\ Note: the 490rpm/V in combination with 18" Prop results in overcurrent (higher that 45A)

BL-Firmware 1.06

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_18_TvsI.gif?m=1413802446

BL-Firmware 1.10:

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_18_TvsI_V1_10.gif?m=1413883274

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U7_490kV_4S_18_%2842ALimit%29_TvsS_csv.gif?m=1413883557

T-Motor U8/135

Successfuly Tested on BL V3 (Firmware 1.10))

T-Motor U8/135 28" 6S

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U8_28_135kV_6S_Test4_up_down.gif?m=1413802455

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U8_28_135kV_6S_TvsS.gif?m=1424422198

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/U8_28_135kV_6S.jpg?m=1413802451

Dualsky XM7010MR-7.5

20" Wood propeller

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MX7010MR75_20x6_6S_TvyI.gif?m=1436342384

https://gallery3.mikrokopter.de/var/albums/tech/MX7010MR75_20x6_6S.gif?m=1436342389

-> this motor runs also fine with 18" prop